Am I the only one who finds this whole war on terrorism stupid and ridiculous? Our governments seem to think we can combat terrorism by fighting fire with fire: invading countries, bombing civilians, etc. This isn't meant to reflect badly on America (although it already has) but honestly, how's that going to achieve anything? So we've got rid of Saddam. Fine. But to me, the war on Iraq seems to be a show of the coalition's military prowess more than anything else (and maybe some other ulterior motives as well, depending on what you believe). Anyway, this war barely scratches the surface of the problem. Whatever Bush and his cronies' strategies are, let's look at what've REALLY achieved: - Countless cases of Palestinian suicide bombers blowing themselves up in Israel. It's got to a point where I can't even open a newspaper without seeing these headlines smeared across the page. - Bali bombing in 2002 kills up to 200 people, most of which were Western tourists. - UN headquarter blown up in Iraq, resulting in the subsequent death of a known UN diplomat, whose name I can't remember. - British targets killed in suicide bomb attack in Istanbul, to coincide with Bush's state visit to London. If that doesn't tell you something, I don't know what does. - Madrid bombings on March 11, killing over 200 people and injuring thousands. Attack purported to be carried out by Al-Qaeda. - In Afghanistan, more boys and young men than ever are being recruited as jihadists, and the scary thing is, they actually WANT to be involved. Just imagine, kids your age around the world are already being trained to become the next generation of terrorists and suicide bombers. You can stop this generation, but not the next, nor the one after that. I've probably missed out some minor cases but the general point is that, there has been an increase in terrorist activities after the war. So what's the right thing to do? Firstly, we need to ask: Why? Why do terrorists hate us so much? After all, if these guys are ready to blow themselves up into smithereens in the blink of an eye, they must be really desperate to communicate something to us. So desperate that they're willing to exchange their lives for it. It's a very scary mentality: that any given human being can take their own life in such a violent way without even hesitating. Secondly, we need to listen, because our governments aren't doing enough of that. Plainly put, bombing Arab-Islamic countries is hardly going to make them give up the fight. Horrific images of mutilated corpses and children with missing limbs were splattered across Al-Jazeera in Arab homes during the war period. What message is that sending out? That we're reinforcing our agression and renewing our campagne of slaughtering innocents. So you may think it's just collateral damage but in their eyes, it won't be viewed as such. As well, I think our leaders need to revisit their history books, because the cause for terrorism and the Arab world's distrust of the West is deeply rooted in the heart of history. The stuff we see on the news everyday is sending out a very important message that seems to go amiss: Don't waste your bombs. Don't waste your time. Don't waste your breath. It ain't gonna work. We need to find another way, a way that doesn't involve bombs, missiles or RPGs. That's not to say we should tie our hands behind our back and wait for terrorism to hit home, but while staying vigilant and beefing up our defence system, there needs to be some serious consolidation of history going on. So..yeah. That was a pretty long post. But the idiocy of Bush's foreign policies and our so-called "war on terror" needs to be addressed. Any thoughts? :wth:
I have a feeling this is going to turn into a flamewar. I'll leave it open for now, but if there's just one person out of line - this gets closed.
1) Not a good idea. I'm not exactly for murdering people just because we're overwhelmed by the problem. 2) Genocide won't work, and it'll probably stir up even more hatred, like the Turks did when the Armenian genocide took place. It won't turn into a flamewar if we all voice our opinions in a civilized way. C'mon, guys. It's not that hard.
We've had discussions that are way more intense than this that have been just fine. I really doubt anyone is going to flame anybody. And if they do: I will hang them by their toenails.
The war is unjustified and only for oil and a piss poor attempt by Dubya to increase his approval rating (but his plan backfired and his approval rating is very low right now). It's obvious the people who live there don't appreciate our work and loss to get Saddam out of power, they keep killing our troops. You can't fight to make peace. I once read this quote somewhere, dunno where, but it's so true: Fighting for peace is like fucking for virginity
The War on Terror is like....The War on Dirt orchestrated by elephants. You can crush as much stuff and you please, but its only going to make more dirt.
Wow. Remember like a year ago? When people actually thought it was a "war" on terrorism? I still find that funny. Now that the media made another twist.. it's suddenly not.
best thing is.... Al-Qaida works as a network in the world all countrys should work together as well in the world thats the only way to take them not by 1 or 2 countrys because thats hopeless
i dont think the war on terrorism will help... i think it will only get worse... but hey. what can we do? and yes, like the nofx say, the idiots are taking over.
So you're saying Al Qaeda is good? <- befuddled [/b][/quote] No he's saying that the most ironic part of it is that it would require a unified effort to have a chance at defeating such a large terrorist organization, not one country going on a rampage as the US has done.
No he's saying that the most ironic part of it is that it would require a unified effort to have a chance at defeating such a large terrorist organization, not one country going on a rampage as the US has done. [/b][/quote] Now I know he meant that. He said, "Best thing is.... al qaeda works as a network in the world" and i let out a loud "WTF?". Then I posted, when I should've kept reading.
No he's saying that the most ironic part of it is that it would require a unified effort to have a chance at defeating such a large terrorist organization, not one country going on a rampage as the US has done. [/b][/quote] thnx for explaining
yeah i agree. but hopefully he wont. [/b][/quote] He won't. Not if the bodies keep piling up. We're dealing with something much worse than Vietnam here.